[ABE-L] rede da ASA

pam em ime.usp.br pam em ime.usp.br
Qua Nov 4 09:09:44 -03 2015


Caros leitores:
A American Statistical Association (ASA) não mantinha rede para  
eventuais comunicações entre associados, como a ABE tem. Provavelmente  
porque com cerca de 15000 associados, a coisa poderia facilmente virar  
bagunça.

Recentemente foi criada o que se chama "ASA Connect Digest", e abaixo  
reproduzo uma edição de 3/11/2015.

Os assuntos discutidos são de natureza estatística somente. Por esta  
última fiquei sabendo que existe algo chamado "redundancy analysis"!

Pedro

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  1. RE: What's your Twitter handle?

  2. RE: Principal Components Analysis

  3. RE: What's your Twitter handle?

  4. RE: Principal Components Analysis

  5. RE: Principal Components Analysis

  6. RE: Principal Components Analysis

  7. RE: Principal Components Analysis

  8. Tenure track faculty position at Rice University

  9. RE: Principal Components Analysis

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1.From: Michelle Wiest
  Posted: Tuesday November 3, 2015  9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: What's your Twitter handle?
  Message:
@MichelleWiest ...I'm a statistician/epidemiologist at the University  
of Idaho. Happy to connect!
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Michelle Wiest
Assistant Professor
University of Idaho
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-02-2015 18:09
From: Lara Harmon
Subject: What's your Twitter handle?


Are you on Twitter? What's your handle? No pressure to share, of  
course, but if you'd like to--please do!


(I'm @Amstat_Lara. Other ASA-related accounts include @Amstatnews,  
@ASA_SciPol, @Ron_Wasserstein, @Amstat_Meg, @Amstat_Sara,  
@Amstat_Megan, and @AmyFarrisASA. Feel free to follow any and/or all  
of us!)
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Lara Harmon
Marketing and Online Community Coordinator
American Statistical Association
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2.From: Simon Blomberg
  Posted: Tuesday November 3, 2015  9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: Principal Components Analysis
  Message:
I would like to second Pieter Kroonenberg's suggestion. Redundancy  
analysis is the multivariate version of regression, where you want to  
regress a set of response variables onto a set of predictor variables.  
This seems to be what you want? An alternative would be canonical  
correlation analysis, if you are just interested in the correlations,  
rather than the regression coefficients.


Cheers,



Simon.
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Simon Blomberg
Lecturer and Consultant Statistician
University of Queensland School of Biological Sciences
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-02-2015 01:53
From: Pieter Kroonenberg
Subject:  Principal Components Analysis


Dear Ms. Landon,





What you would like to do is called redundancy analysis, it is a  
special case of canonical correlation analysis. In the latter you look  
for linear combinations of each set of variables such that the  
correlation among the linear combinations from both set is high as  
possible, in the former case the criterion is that the linear  
combination of the response set can be best predicted by the linear  
combination of the predictor set. Van den Wollenberg in Psychometrika  
deals with redundancy analysis. The latter seems to be due to  
Hotelling. A net search will give all the relevant references.
------------------------------
Pieter Kroonenberg
Leiden University







3.From: Peter Flom
  Posted: Tuesday November 3, 2015  9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: What's your Twitter handle?
  Message:
I am on Twitter.  My handle is @PeterFlomStat



Peter
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Peter Flom
Peter Flom Consulting
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-02-2015 18:09
From: Lara Harmon
Subject: What's your Twitter handle?


Are you on Twitter? What's your handle? No pressure to share, of  
course, but if you'd like to--please do!


(I'm @Amstat_Lara. Other ASA-related accounts include @Amstatnews,  
@ASA_SciPol, @Ron_Wasserstein, @Amstat_Meg, @Amstat_Sara,  
@Amstat_Megan, and @AmyFarrisASA. Feel free to follow any and/or all  
of us!)
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Lara Harmon
Marketing and Online Community Coordinator
American Statistical Association
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4.From: R. Cook
  Posted: Tuesday November 3, 2015  9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: Principal Components Analysis
  Message:
I generally stay away from principal components in such situations  
because of method can miss relevant relationships.  Partial least  
squares is not uniquely defined when regressing multiple responses on  
multiple predictors, as there are different algorithms that produce  
different answers.  Canonical correlation analysis could be useful.   
An appropriate choice would seem to depend on the reason(s) for  
needing to use dimension reduction in the first place.  For instance,  
additional issues arise if it's needed to compensate for a small  
sample size.

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R. Cook
University of Minnesota
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-30-2015 09:27
From: Linda Landon
Subject: Principal Components Analysis

Everyone,

I'm about to make my first foray into principal component analysis  
since graduate school.  I'm working on a multivariate regression  
problem that has multiple independent variables and multiple dependent  
variables.    I'm wondering if it would be possible to perform  
multivariate regression by using BOTH the principal components  
representing dimensions in the set of independent variables as  
independent variables and the principal components representing  
dimensions  in the set of dependent variables as dependent variables  
in the same regression model.  However, I'm unsure if this application  
is statistically valid.

The common examples found in texts and in the peer-reviewed literature  
when PCA is applied prior to multivariate regression are

(1)    multiple independent variables to find the principal components  
in the independent variables and then one or more components are used  
as independent variables in a regression against a single dependent  
variable or
(2)    to multiple dependent variables to find the principal  
components in the dependent variables and then a single component is  
used as a dependent variables in a regression against a more or more  
independent variables.

However, I would like to know if it is possible to perform one  
multivariate regression analysis on two sets of principal components,  
one set of components representing the dimensions in the independent  
variables and the other set of components representing the dimensions  
in the dependent variables.   In my rather limited literature search,  
I haven't found an example of this application in the peer-reviewed  
literature, which could indicate that it is not statistically valid.   
Further, other sources of information don't explicitly address this  
application.

Thanks in advance for your insight.

Linda

Linda A. Landon, PhD, ELS
President
Research Communiqu
Jefferson City, MO
Email:  LandonPhD em ResearchCommunique.com <LandonPhD em ResearchCommunique.com>
Phone: 573-797-4517
Central Standard Time ( CST ) = GMT-6 (November  February)
Central Daylight Time ( CDT )  = GMT-5 (March October)








5.From: Larry Price
  Posted: Tuesday November 3, 2015  9:15 AM
  Subject: RE: Principal Components Analysis
  Message:
I agree with Ken Burnham, canonical correlation analysis will allow  
you to answer your research questions. Canonical correlation is very  
flexible yet underutilized.


Larry Price


Texas State University
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Larry Price
Director/Professor - Interdisciplinary Initiative for Research
Texas State University
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-02-2015 01:04
From: Kenneth Burnham
Subject:  Principal Components Analysis


I think canonical correlation is the method you want.
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Kenneth Burnham
Colorado State University







6.From: Thaddeus Tarpey
  Posted: Tuesday November 3, 2015  10:09 AM
  Subject: RE: Principal Components Analysis
  Message:
This is a multivariate multiple regression problem.  An approach to  
this problem that might be useful and insightful is to perform a  
reduced rank regression.  The book by Reinsel and Velu might be  
helpful for this approach.


Thad Tarpey
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Thaddeus Tarpey
Wright State University
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Original Message:
Sent: 11-02-2015 01:53
From: Pieter Kroonenberg
Subject:  Principal Components Analysis


Dear Ms. Landon,





What you would like to do is called redundancy analysis, it is a  
special case of canonical correlation analysis. In the latter you look  
for linear combinations of each set of variables such that the  
correlation among the linear combinations from both set is high as  
possible, in the former case the criterion is that the linear  
combination of the response set can be best predicted by the linear  
combination of the predictor set. Van den Wollenberg in Psychometrika  
deals with redundancy analysis. The latter seems to be due to  
Hotelling. A net search will give all the relevant references.
------------------------------
Pieter Kroonenberg
Leiden University







7.From: Donald Myers
  Posted: Tuesday November 3, 2015  1:37 PM
  Subject: RE: Principal Components Analysis
  Message: There is also also an old paper in SIAM Review on Linear Dependency
Analysis and a FORTRAN code

Donald E Myers

------Original Message------


Dear Dr. Landon,


        I would recommend reading up on CANONICAL CORRELATION  
analysis.  This is essentially a technique that simultaneously  
explores & tests the relations of a SET of variables (e.g., y1, y2,  
y3, etc.) versus a SET of variables (e.g., x1, x2, x3, etc.).  For  
example, check the internet for SAS stats documentation re the CANCORR  
procedure ("Proc Cancorr").


Joseph J. Locascio, Ph.D.
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Joseph J. Locascio, Ph.D.,
Assistant Professor of Neurology,
Harvard Medical School,
and Statistician,
Memory and Movement Disorders Units,
Massachusetts Alzheimer's Disease Research Center,
Neurology Dept.,
Massachusetts General Hospital (MGH),
Boston, Massachusetts 02114
Phone: (617) 724-7192
Email: JLocascio em partners.org
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8.From: Marina Vannucci
  Posted: Tuesday November 3, 2015  4:22 PM
  Subject: Tenure track faculty position at Rice University
  Message:

Please share this announcements with interested parties.


The Department of Statistics at Rice University invites applications  
for a tenure-track position. Priority hiring is at the Assistant  
professor level, however, highly qualified, experienced candidates may  
be considered at the rank of Associate Professor. A doctorate in  
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Applications are sought from areas of modern statistics that will  
enhance the George R. Brown School of Engineerings focus on Data  
Science and the understanding of complex data, while strengthening the  
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The position begins Fall 2016. Please browse our website for a  
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and is committed to increasing the diversity of its faculty.

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Marina Vannucci
Professor and Chair
Department of Statistics
Rice University
6100 Main street
Houston, TX 77005
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9.From: James Frane
  Posted: Tuesday November 3, 2015  5:25 PM
  Subject: RE: Principal Components Analysis
  Message:
I don't understand how a method of analysis can be recommended without  
understanding precisely what the variables are and what is already  
known about each individually and what their relationships with each  
other are.


There are some things that I don't recommend, e.g., principal  
components without rotation to simple structure because of a general  
lack of practical interpretation of the unrotated principal  
components.  Moreover, by default the rotation should be oblique  
rather than orthogonal, i.e., orthogonal rotation should be used only  
when oblique rotation reveals nearly orthogonal factors.  It follows  
that canonical correlation is not recommended because is yields  
orthogonal uninterpretable factors.


Dimension reduction may be in order so I accept orthogonally rotated  
prinicpal components (or maximum likelihood factors if you want to go  
elegant) followed by oblique rotation for each of the two sets of  
variables as a possibility, but only after such procedures pass common  
sense acceptance on the basis of the first paragraph above.
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James Frane
Self-Employed
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Original Message:
Sent: 10-30-2015 09:27
From: Linda Landon
Subject: Principal Components Analysis

Everyone,

I'm about to make my first foray into principal component analysis  
since graduate school.  I'm working on a multivariate regression  
problem that has multiple independent variables and multiple dependent  
variables.    I'm wondering if it would be possible to perform  
multivariate regression by using BOTH the principal components  
representing dimensions in the set of independent variables as  
independent variables and the principal components representing  
dimensions  in the set of dependent variables as dependent variables  
in the same regression model.  However, I'm unsure if this application  
is statistically valid.

The common examples found in texts and in the peer-reviewed literature  
when PCA is applied prior to multivariate regression are

(1)    multiple independent variables to find the principal components  
in the independent variables and then one or more components are used  
as independent variables in a regression against a single dependent  
variable or
(2)    to multiple dependent variables to find the principal  
components in the dependent variables and then a single component is  
used as a dependent variables in a regression against a more or more  
independent variables.

However, I would like to know if it is possible to perform one  
multivariate regression analysis on two sets of principal components,  
one set of components representing the dimensions in the independent  
variables and the other set of components representing the dimensions  
in the dependent variables.   In my rather limited literature search,  
I haven't found an example of this application in the peer-reviewed  
literature, which could indicate that it is not statistically valid.   
Further, other sources of information don't explicitly address this  
application.

Thanks in advance for your insight.

Linda

Linda A. Landon, PhD, ELS
President
Research Communiqu
Jefferson City, MO
Email:  LandonPhD em ResearchCommunique.com <LandonPhD em ResearchCommunique.com>
Phone: 573-797-4517
Central Standard Time ( CST ) = GMT-6 (November  February)
Central Daylight Time ( CDT )  = GMT-5 (March October)



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